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What do you breed for colour wise
  • I'm just starting out and am playing around with what I want I know I want to breed big drafts and small ponies but I'm not sure what colours I want to get. What are your favorite colours to breed for
  • Hello MF2! I've just recently started out as well and am doing drafts too! I'm not going for a specific colour just yet, but I do love the bays and what the sooty gene can do. Currently my stable is a bit dark, so I bred one of the RS to another of the same kind and luckily got a Perlino, which does look quite nice. I think I'll just keep breeding for the sooty gene on purpose, but I do have my eye on those satin horses...
    Producer of Volcanic Glass Drafts. Lapisobsidianus.
    Prices are almost always negotiable.
  • I am the weird one, breeding for dark bay duns, grullos, and blacks. I also like the rabicanno gene along with sooty, sooty+ DP and GP, but that is because I am looking for a more primitive, wild look in my herd. A lot of people like the flashy paints, which are gorgeous, but don't give off the feel I'm looking for.
  • My favorites are liver chestnuts and any color of loud appaloosas and splash with preference to dark colors
  • I like a variety of colors. I am right doing a project of breeding shires. My colors for them are blacks bays and browns for my studs and those colors plus grey and gene roan just on the mares.
  • I breed for mostlt KP, GP, DP and satin, but I also have lines of brown and wild bay. And pretties like ice, ice2, ice9, ice10 and ice13, snowflake and nexus.
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  • I hope you don't think I'm hijacking your post, but Maribo, what does KP, GP and DP mean? I know DP tends to make horses darker, but I have no idea what any of them mean.
    Producer of Volcanic Glass Drafts. Lapisobsidianus.
    Prices are almost always negotiable.
  • KP is Kit Promoter. It's a fantasy gene based in real markings that come from somatic mutations (these can happen when a gene "breaks" somewhere along the fetal developmental process, or may have something to do with heat or pressure on the fetus before birth...many have no known cause). A KP horse has "clouds" of roaning on its body. They may cover most of the body of there may only be the tiniest wisp. KP is available in the GMT lab. For a horse to "show" KP markings and be registerable in the KP Breeders Club, it must be homozygous for the hidden gene (KP doesn't show up on the color test) and also have patterns at both Kit alleles, like Tobiano, roan, Sabino or white. It can be the same pattern twice or any two different patterns as long as the combination isn't lethal. This is one of my KP stallions. You can see his clouds along his top line and across his Appy blanket.

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  • Ok I understand now, thank you!
    Producer of Volcanic Glass Drafts. Lapisobsidianus.
    Prices are almost always negotiable.
  • GP refers to Gulastra Plume. It's a real marking traceable back to an Arabian stallion, Gulastra, who threw bay foals with white tips to their tails. The specific gene responsible has not been identified, and several things like Splash can cause a white tail tip, so the gene is considered "Hypothetical" by our game goddess. Again, you can buy this gene in the GMT lab. It is a hidden gene again and needs to be homozygous to be expressed. It's only expressed on bay based horses (agouti horses) so bay, wild bay, brown, and can be seen with cream, dun and champagne dilutions. It may be present underneath silver or splash but obviously won't be seen in those cases. It may be present but unexpressed in perlinos (bay with a double cream dilution). This is one of my GP stallions, who is also DP.

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  • Oh, ok! I had recently noticed some horses having a white tipped tail, but didn't realise it had a whole gene dedicated to it. Thank you again!
    Producer of Volcanic Glass Drafts. Lapisobsidianus.
    Prices are almost always negotiable.
  • DP is Dense Pheomelanin. Pheomelanin is red pigment, so DP makes red pigment darker. DP is also a hidden gene and can be purchased in the GMT lab, but unlike the other two it is also naturally occurring as a random gene in the game. It affects all horses with red pigment, so agouti based horses and chestnut based horses, but not horses that are black or Grullo. DP is most easily noticed on chestnuts, red duns and palominos. This is because the Liver Breeders Club takes horses with those 3 base colors that also have 3 or 4 darkening alleles. In this game horses have two genetic loci for darkening--sooty and DP. Each has two allele spots. As long as any 3 of those 4 allele spots codes for a darkening gene (Ssty, S+ or DP) then that red horse will qualify for the Liver club. 4 darkening alleles on a chestnut horse can make the horse look almost black, and is commonly called a black chestnut, but the game will still call it a liver chestnut. Below are a black chestnut stallion, a liver chestnut and a chocolate palomino.

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  • DP is harder to recognize in golden champagne or any of the agouti horses. If you know DP is in the pedigree that helps--you may suspicious of a particularly dark foal. If you click on the GP stallion or the black chestnut stallion and open their family pages, you can see the foals they have produced. In each case every foal is at least heterozygous for DP. You will see the GP horse has some blood bay foals--wild bay with DP and sooty makes blood bay in this game. My black chestnut stallion has golden champagnes and regular bays. I also have some DP brown running around in my herd. Identifying DP just takes practice and comparing a suspected horse with one you know has it and you know doesn't have it. Even then sometimes it is iffy, especially with the champagnes.
  • And obsidian--the white tail tip can also happen with Splash, which is freely available in the game and makes the horse look like it was dipped in white paint. The Splash may be extensive and come well up onto the belly of the horse, or minimal and just do the hooves and very tip of the tail, or anywhere in between. I like a medium splash where I get 4 tall white stockings and part of a tail....but that's my personal preference! Splash can also give horses blue eyes......so black splash with blue eyes is one of my very favorite colors in the game!
  • I think I'm going to go for just drafts so if anybody is interested I'll sell my 3 riding ponies for dirt cheap. I want to breed big and get quality and performance over colour but focusing with dark colours and greys (percheronish) than, you for all your help

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