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Maribo · Aug 3, 2018 3:32 PM

...don't. Just don't.

I have bred 29 foals through embryo transfer today. Expensive, wonderfully blingy straws and eggs. Just look at all that pretty:
http://hj2.huntandjump.com/adv_search.php?runsearch=1&status=any&ageg=&agel=2&agee=&erag=&eral=&erae=&heightg=&heightl=&heighte=&boneg=&bonel=&bonee=&f_basic=none&f_adv=none&f_limit=25&stallion=1&mare=1&gelding=1&spayedmare=1&bty=1&lined=lined&name=&name_lm=like&color=&color_lm=like&owner=&owner_lm=like&breeder=108&breeder_lm=like&sire=&sire_lm=like&dam=&dam_lm=like&barn=&barn_lm=like&pasture=&past_lm=like&tattoo=&tat_lm=like&tat_and=and&club=&bc_lm=like&bc_and=and&e1=&e2=&a1=&a4=&a2=&a3=&f1=&f2=&p1=&p2=&s1=&s2=&s3=&c1=&c2=&c3=&d1=&d2=&g1=&g2=&ch1=&ch2=&z1=&z2=&sa2=&sa1=&mu2=&mu1=&chn2=&chn1=&kit1=&kit2=&kit3=&kit4=&kit5=&kit6=&kit10=&kit11=&kit12=&kit7=&kit8=&kit9=&sp1=&sp2=&sp3=&spM=&pax31=&pax32=&rb1=&rb2=&o1=&o2=&l1=&l2=&ice1=&icei=&ice2=&ice3=&ice4=&ice5=&ice6=&ice7=&ice8=&ice9=&ice10=&ice11=&ice12=&ice13=&ice14=&nexn=&nexx=&nexr=&nexg=&nexb=&nexw=&rainr=&rainwt=&rainpl=&raint=&rainna=&brindle1=1&brindle2=1&wf1=1&wf2=1&wf3=1&wf4=1&wf5=1&wf6=1&offset=25

First off, let's adress the fact that I got 19(!) colts and 10 fillies. Do I need more colts? Abso-toot-ly not.

Then, let's look at intact numbers. I've got 5 intacts, wich is not aaaaaall to bad, except 4 of them are colts... And three of them are from the same sire... They are pretty though :)

2 hidden 2628019 YES
Ladies first, aweful dark looking cremello (I'm thinking -at least- het DP, could be hom), and hom Wrong Warp.

2 hidden 2628012 SUP
Het Nexus, het Wrong Warp, het Chinchilla, possible DP

2 hidden 2628030 SUP
At least het DP, possible hom, and het Nexus

2 S walkin 2628100 sup
Hom snowflake, het pearl. I usually don't keep colts that do not test superior to an expro, but I might make an exception for this one. He is superior to sire.

3 nebula 2628111
Het nexus, het DP colt, A papered.

duelinghawks · Aug 3, 2018 3:47 PM

I feel your pain in every way...just went through the exact same thing... average cost of each was a whopping 50,000hbs with straw cost, egg flush, embryo creation and implantation, and testing. Only got one keeper out of all of them. Sick and expensive gamble lol.

DevilsParadise · Aug 3, 2018 4:39 PM

One reason why I don't use eggs much. I had decent luck with my straws yesterday. I, too, got a bunch of colts. Ended up keeping 5 or 6 (bad me...very bad me). I have 2 up for sale and the rest were gelded. Only got 4 intact ladies. I hope I got this out of my system early. I need more colts like I need another hole in the head....

BlackWyld · Aug 3, 2018 5:09 PM

I had assumed that using eggs and embryos would result in foals that are slightly higher on the mare's range like a pasture bonus would. Especially with all the money involved to create a foal using this method.
This is good to know that it doesn't.

MoonAcre Stables · Aug 3, 2018 5:17 PM

I did some yesterday. Got mostly colts as well and mostly alters lol.

CeffylDwr · Aug 3, 2018 7:55 PM

Sorry to hear you had a bad run on embryos this morning, that's always heartbreaking especially when they are so expensive. I had mostly colts from embryos and only one didn't pass (of course it had to be the hom snf g2) but 4 beautiful ladies out of the group and all passed (though I'm baffled how Sunshine passed testing and Girlie will have to have the SB2 she missed from dad added).

I have faith the lucky embryo fairy will visit you again!

G2 DPM The Girl Next Door

G2 AX Steal My Sunshine

G3 NXDP The Ripple Effect

G3 AX Chiana

SquishLime · Aug 3, 2018 9:54 PM

I love the look of nexus on chocolate palomino, at least you guys got some pretty ones!
Though I am now feeling slightly better about not being able to use eggs now :/

Lallyhop · Aug 3, 2018 9:56 PM

Yup, embryo breeding and regular (non-pasture) breeding have the same stats, so it definitely doesn’t give you any bonuses for all the extra money spent. $-)

The only reson I can possibly persuade myself to embryo breed is for my few mares that I really want more than one foal a season (like my hom mu foundation lady, who I usually get lovely foals from but have had a couple expensive snips in there). There’s really no other reason to use it, aside from purchased eggs. Shame you had such a run of bad luck, though! That really sucks! Here’s hoping your luck comes back for the rest of the season :x

kintara · Aug 4, 2018 12:15 AM

Hopefully my odds are better, got lots of embryos to breed this weekend!

Maribo · Aug 4, 2018 10:08 AM

Same here Kintara. My freezer is brimming with awesomeness :x Just gotta keep trying, and hopefully today the AI goddess (that aint no fairy...) is a little less vengeful :P

Maribo · Aug 4, 2018 12:59 PM

Just shoot me now. I just bred 19 homozygous Chinchilla foals, and 10 stayed intact, wich is pretty awesome. Except there are 2 fillies, and EIGHT colts :)) And I vowed to myself not to use a bunch of GMTs to make foals what I want them this season... Guess I will be breaking that vow pretty fast :P

Maribo · Aug 4, 2018 1:04 PM

Aaaand to make it all better (or maybe it's worse....) 6 of the colts are superior to sire. They sure are stunning though :x

http://hj2.huntandjump.com/adv_search.php?runsearch=1&status=any&ageg=&agel=&agee=&erag=&eral=&erae=&heightg=&heightl=&heighte=&boneg=&bonel=&bonee=&f_basic=none&f_adv=none&f_limit=25&stallion=1&mare=1&bty=1&lined=lined&name=&name_lm=like&color=&color_lm=like&owner=108&owner_lm=like&breeder=&breeder_lm=like&sire=&sire_lm=like&dam=&dam_lm=like&barn=&barn_lm=like&pasture=&past_lm=like&tattoo=&tat_lm=like&tat_and=and&club=&bc_lm=like&bc_and=and&e1=&e2=&a1=&a4=&a2=&a3=&f1=&f2=&p1=&p2=&s1=&s2=&s3=&c1=&c2=&c3=&d1=&d2=&g1=&g2=&ch1=&ch2=&z1=&z2=&sa2=&sa1=&mu2=&mu1=&chn2=&chn1=2&kit1=&kit2=&kit3=&kit4=&kit5=&kit6=&kit10=&kit11=&kit12=&kit7=&kit8=&kit9=&sp1=&sp2=&sp3=&spM=&pax31=&pax32=&rb1=&rb2=&o1=&o2=&l1=&l2=&ice1=&icei=&ice2=&ice3=&ice4=&ice5=&ice6=&ice7=&ice8=&ice9=&ice10=&ice11=&ice12=&ice13=&ice14=&nexn=&nexx=&nexr=&nexg=&nexb=&nexw=&rainr=&rainwt=&rainpl=&raint=&rainna=&brindle1=1&brindle2=1&wf1=1&wf2=1&wf3=1&wf4=1&wf5=1&wf6=1

(they will not be for sale :P )

BlackWyld · Aug 4, 2018 1:10 PM

They are beautiful! I am loving those sooty silver browns!

Maribo · Aug 4, 2018 1:17 PM

I know right? They are gorgeous!

hiddenvfarm · Aug 4, 2018 1:44 PM

I wish it was more like real life. And that you get better quality. I am pretty sure we are only flushing our better mares. It does make it hard to justify. I only flush my hard to get genes

NorthernStars · Aug 4, 2018 1:53 PM

I know the feeling, I'm embryo transferring 2 of my favourite mares this season as they are both old (17 and 18), their first foals have both failed, but hopefully the next ones will do a bit better.
I almost cried over this girl she is so pretty#

NS2 Chilled To The Bone
And I suppose it saved me having to gmt him into a her

NS2 Pumpkin Memories

kintara · Aug 4, 2018 11:55 PM

Aw Maribo, I'm sure you want to sell one of those chinchilla colts to me!! :D

GeneverGinger · Aug 5, 2018 12:34 AM

Yes, Maribo -- if you change your mind about those colts, I'm sure you'd have people lined up around the block. (Including me.)

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