Welcome! | Log In
ORCHID SERVER | Year: 103 Era: 14

HGG Community Forums

What Makes A Horse Valuable? - Horse Genetics Game - Dev Forum
Log In to HorseGeneticsGame
Members log in here:
Username:
Password:

By hitting the above you signify that you agree with our rules and conditions.
Forgot your password?
HGG Community Forums

Join our discord server!

Howdy, Stranger!

It looks like you're new here. If you want to get involved, click one of these buttons!

In this Discussion

Who's Online (0)

What Makes A Horse Valuable?
  • I have a free account and I don't paper my horses. I want to know what aspects of a horse can drive the price up. I love appaloosas and sell them for more. All of my horses are mare and gelding tested and most pass. Do earlier era horses sell for more than current era horses? Is a horse with flashy color more valuable than a solid horse? Are warmbloods worth more than drafts and riding horses?
    I don't want to sell my horses for a stupid price and then wonder why the sell. Thanks!
  • Intact horses versus altered horses definitely have a huge difference in value, considering breeding is the main aspect of the game. Altered horses are still valuable, however, because of the point system (The more competition points a person has, the more their show bonus is every week).
    There's nothing really to do especially with different Eras. It's been a while since Era 3 started, so thr last Era 2 foundations were born a while ago. A very old mare only has a few breedings left in her, so she's not as valuable as a much younger horse who happened to be born after the new era. Eras are also inherited by foals, but the value is more to do with generation than when his/her first ancestors were born. :) Eras were mostly created so that some of the leaderboards wouldn't be dominated by some players who simply have been playing longer than everyone else.
    Do you color test them? Certain genes can definitely raise the price. Appaloosa I think is getting pretty popular, so a price-raise is fine there. Flashy white colors on a horse can be caused my lots of different genes, so depending on which ones (some are buy-only), they can be really expensive.
    I also usually add small tests' prices to the sell price, and less than the whole price of the larger ones. :)
  • Phoenix, like all things, price is really based on supply and demand. Some colors/genes are quite popular and valuable because they are rarely available on the open market--mostly genes that are only available by buying them from the gene modification lab or that are only in certain Rank Special herd helpers. Appaloosa is freely available in the game but more rare than solids and certain other patterns...leopard appys (horses with spots over their whole body and no areas of solid color) and appys with unusual color combinations are worth more than general blanket appys in basic colors...

    And as Rose said, mostly evenly bred upper generation horses (so the offspring of a generation 4 stallion and a gen 4 mare, for instance) are usually worth more than foundations...but this is at least partially affected by knowing the horses are of a general good quality which is where papering comes in. Era doesn't really figure in to price at all I don't think....
  • If you're looking for show horses, however, you want high PT scores & lots of all time points earned. Which means mature horses.

    With mares and stallions you might also want to check the average PT of their foals.

    That said; Brindle has always been desirable, I think. Pearl and Satin are pretty high on the list. Galustra Plume is right up there, and current 'fads' (at least from my point of view) are DP, liver, and 'black' chestnut. Splash and Frame are in the middle. Those genes, on top of your shiney appaloosas, will increase the prices you can get.

    Drafts and Riding horses are relatively new (in the past year, is that correct, ladies?) and are still kind of 'niche' markets. (If that is all you're marketing - a draft or riding horse with the fancy genes is gonna be very valuable to the right person).

    Pricing is tough. Untested foundations are only worth 2500. Even if you've done the free testing on a foundation horse, you probably won't get a much higher price for it without the fancy genes (Which are REALLY hard to come by on a foundation horse). Higher ranked foundations (High level herd helpers, and Rank Specials - the ones Ammit comes out with a couple times a year, like the recent Freaky Friday) are worth quite a lot, however, because they have extra benefits - perfect breeding ability, higher PT scores than a regular foundation, great show horse abilities - not to mention the fancy genes. A sixth generation stallion that is known for passing his one fancy gene and decent PT score could be anywhere from 10k to 100k. A gold papered mare with 77 fancy genes is going to be millions! (Are there even 77 fancy genes in the game?!)
    image
  • While Dena is correct that you want to buy high point show ponies, in my personal opinion they still aren't worth a lot as far as a purchase price goes. The whole point of buying an established show pony is for it to earn you hbs....so let's say you're looking at a 15 year old horse with 200 points and it's being sold for 5000hbs. That horse will earn you 150 hbs (let's assume it comes dead last in every class from now on and won't earn any new points) in extra show bonus each week (you earn 3 hbs for every 4 show points you "own"--every horse you own with points whether you've bought, bred or created them...but once you sell the horse you lose those points and any future show bonus goes to the new owner, same if the horse dies). Horses start "aging out" of the game when they turn 18, so let's assume the horse is only going to make it through his 17th year. Now you have to look at the calendar and see how many weekly rollovers he will live through before he turns 18. In this case, assuming this hypothetical horse is for sale today, you have 11 rollovers before he turns 18 and could die. 18 weeks X 150 hb show bonus = 2700 guaranteed earnings for you. So that horse may not be worth 5000hbs. I do try to do a quick calculation when buying older show ponies like that, and I prefer to pay no more than I would with a first bid at auction for them to maximize my return on investment.... Also everyone should watch to make sure you aren't accidentally buying a horse that may age out of the game in the next turnover...generally everyone is good about watching that but we all make mistakes and put the wrong horse up for auction here and there!
  • Ok thanks everyone!
  • Just a heads up, on show horses: If the horse keeps coming in dead last, it will not be making you any points, so it will not be making you money, and will just be taking up space in a stall. You need to get rid of it, and get one that at least comes in anywhere from 1st to next to last, those do make some money.
  • KerredansCorral has given good advice for horses that are no longer adding points to their show score when you train them. Other horses, give them a few weeks chance to improve.
    De gustibus non disputandum. "There's no arguing about tastes."

    SandyCreek Farm: ID# 441
    also playing H&J1 as SandyCreek Acres: ID# 137592

Join our discord server!