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- CharlieQuinn May 2016
- Maribo May 2016
- OndowaStables May 2016
- PaintsStables May 2016
- SandycreekFarm May 2016
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Tail Color Questions
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I have an appy heavy colt that has a little bit of a splash colored tail but the splash breeders club I also tried the gulastra plume club but they did not except him. Why is this?
Here he is : http://hj2.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=436988 -
I think they can only be registered in 4 Breeder's Clubs. So, your colt may be Splash, but if you look at the 'enter this horse' button on other clubs, he may be in them, and not the Splash Club. I hope that makes sense. ;)Thanked by 1CharlieQuinn
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And you can pick the 4 clubs yourself Paints, it does not pick 4 random ones. So as long as he is not already in 4 clubs, he will show in all he is elligable for.
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Based on the parent's images and the phenotype of the foal, this is what I can figure the Color Test might show.
Foal: Is clearly Bay Appaloosa. I don't see visible markers for White 2, which his sire carries, or Roan, which his dam carries, although he might carry either without showing them because of he got Llp and PATN1 from somebody. His gene test will probably show Ee aA KitW2 Kit LlpL ECA3P(PATN1)ECA3P+ WF: Minimal. I would guess the white in his tail is from the Appaloosa.
The sire is definitely a White 2 Black. I would postulate a large white factor, because only a little of the black shows on his face. There are a few faint spots on his shoulder and upper loin, so I suspect he is the source of the foal's Llp and PATN1. He may be homozygous for ECA3P(PATN1) since the spots are few, but it can't be proven by the image. The sire's gene test will probably show E? aa KitW2Kit Llp? ECA3P(PATN1)ECA3P? White Factor Large or Extensive.
The dam appears to be a Red Roan with Minimal or Small White Factor. Her gene test will show ee A? KitrKit WF: Minimal (my best guess).
These guesses are all based on the phenotypes (the visual appearance) of the three horses in question. Only running a Color Test on all three will give the definitive answers.De gustibus non disputandum. "There's no arguing about tastes."
SandyCreek Farm: ID# 441
also playing H&J1 as SandyCreek Acres: ID# 137592Thanked by 1CharlieQuinn -
Okay thanks everyone!
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Gulastra Plume won't show up spontaneously, and it has to be homozygous to show. The only way to get it into a line is to GMT it onto a foundation, so unless you have done that or are breeding to someone else's GP horse (and both parents carry it), it is not a possible cause if you get a foal with white in its tail.I was jllewis on the old forum.
Stable ID 88Thanked by 1CharlieQuinn -
That makes sense. Thanks!