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- ConfluenceFarms August 2016
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Papers/ Show rankings
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How/ when do horses get papers? I just started and I am confused. Do foundation horses even get papers?
Also how do showing levels work? I have two mares at 1W level but two others at 2L level. Which horses are better? -
Papering is based on how good a broodmare she is. The mare has to have 3 foals to be eligible for papering. Foundation horses can paper, but are usually fairly low; Yellow or Red. It all depends on the PT scores of the foals. Mares can recieve Yellow, Red, Blue or *Gold papers.
Stallions are ranked at birth, but you have to pay for the test to see what that rank is. Same idea applies with Foundations, most are C, a very few are B. Stallions can rank C, B, A, or *Star.
Showing levels are determined by how many points the horse has earned. Just like there are local 4H level shows, and Grand Prix level shows in real life it it all based on training, and the number of shows.
Heres a link to what might be a clearer explination: http://hj2.huntandjump.com/forum/discussion/9040/horse-shows#Item_9
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1. If you look in the left menu bar under testing and papering, you will probably see Stallion Papering and Mare Papering grayed out near the bottom of the list of testing features. Stallion Papering becomes available when you purchase a Basic Upgrade; Mare Papering becomes available when you purchase a Premium Upgrade. If you have the necessary upgrades, all horses can be papered. Stallions can be papered as soon as they are created or born. Mares have to have 3 live foals on the ground before they can be papered.
2. Every time you train a horse a certain number of points is added to the score it will receive when you show it. There are 8 levels and 4 grades in each level.
As you train your horses, they will work their way through the grades of Level 1 (Local, Regional, National, World). Together these four grades cover 10 score points. When a horse reaches 10 or 11 score points it will "Level Up" into Level 2 Local.
From here through all four grades of Level 5, each Level/Grade covers a 10 point spread in scores. You can't tell which horses are better based on their Level/Grade rank, because, if you are faithful in training them, they will be continually increasing the level of the shows they are eligible for. I'm not sure how many score points are contained in the classes for levels 6 through 8. It will be more than 10. Once a horse reaches Level 8 World, it can go no higher and there is a considerable point spread for these classes.
Many foundations will add about 3 points to the score they are given in a show. However, there is also a consistency factor, which will influence the score a horse will receive. Consistent horses will have the same score each time they show in a week, or perhaps between 1 and 2 points higher or lower than their base score. Inconsistent horses have much wider swings in their scores when shown twice in the same week, and can be harder to predict where their base score actually is. Rarely will there be a horse that is ranked Very Inconsistent.
You can see a chart of all the levels and grades if you click on "My Show Entries" under Showing in the left menu bar. The levels are sometimes referred to by number and other times by their full name. Here is a list of them.
Level 1-- Inhand (Horses are shown in a halter class, not ridden)
Level 2 -- Green under saddle (horses are being ridden, but not jumped)
Level 3 -- Green over fences (horses are now ready to be jumped)
Level 4 -- Training (horses are being schooled to improve the height and complexity of the jumps they can do)
Level 5 -- C Level (more difficult, higher jumps)
Level 6 -- B Level (even higher jumps and more complex patterns of jumps)
Level 7 -- A Level (increasing difficult of jump courses)
Level 8 -- Grand Prix (the highest, most complex jump courses, done by the most talented horses and riders. A horse would have to be competing at this level to qualify for the Olympics in Show Jumping, for instance.)
3. Horses get another kind of points, too. These are awarded to every horse that competes in a class, except for the horse that comes in last, which gets no points. The more horses there are in a class, the more show points will be awarded to each one. Fewer points are awarded to Local grade classes. These points are what you can keep track of on your stable home page. You will receive extra hajibucks each night based on the total number of these show points all your horses have gained. Horses keep these points when they are sold and they are transferred to the new owner.De gustibus non disputandum. "There's no arguing about tastes."
SandyCreek Farm: ID# 441
also playing H&J1 as SandyCreek Acres: ID# 137592 -
Certainly. I try to be very thorough, so I tend to make long, complex posts about things, which Ammit would probably say folks would get tired of reading. Eight years of studying Latin will do that to you. *G*
Your brief post (made while I was busily typing away) includes things that I didn't think to put in mine. It's a good thing you answered too.De gustibus non disputandum. "There's no arguing about tastes."
SandyCreek Farm: ID# 441
also playing H&J1 as SandyCreek Acres: ID# 137592