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Papering
  • How important is mare papering? Is it essential to bettering your breeding/show herd? How many of you sell or snip off lower graded horses? And how long did it take to get a star or gold horse? I finally got an A stud and i was so excited. :-)
  • I consider it pretty important, a piece of the puzzle to cull my mare herd, although I also use average foal PT as a measure of their quality.
  • I also use it as a piece of the culling puzzle...but I also think I'm relying more heavily on AFPT and on papering my gelded foals than simply on papering mares, especially mares I buy in rather than create and pasture breed from the start!
  • I've always had problem culling mares, largely because I have so many horses that many, many of my mares never have the three extant foals required for papering.

    I have started comparing the AFPT of my 2nd gen and up mares that reach papering with that of their dams and neuter them if their AFPT is lower than their dams' or if they have a lower paper level.

    This may be why I don't have many Blue mares and no homebred Star stallions.
    De gustibus non disputandum. "There's no arguing about tastes."

    SandyCreek Farm: ID# 441
    also playing H&J1 as SandyCreek Acres: ID# 137592
  • This is just the way I play, I may play a little different than most other players when it comes to PT and papering.

    I am about the same as SandyCreek for the same reason with my mares. Plus, I show all my horses, altered or not. The mares I do manage to get three foals from, sometimes are 10 or 11 years old by the time I get to them. Some of those mares may paper yellow or red, but their foals have higher PT than they do, so I leave them intact. However, I may not breed them again before they age out of the game.

    I try and paper my stallions as soon as they are born, since I don 't have to wait for three foals like with mares. I sometimes get so excited about the colts I am getting, that I forget to paper them for a while. I go by generation, and paper level for gelding. If one has a nice PT, but papers lower, then I geld right away. Unless, I see something in him, and I want to test breed him to a couple of mares first, to see if he gives me good show horses.

    I have several homebred *Star* stallions, but they are just now reaching breeding age. I will test breed them a few times, before gelding, if they do not produce good foals. My older *Star* stallions I bought from other players. The same applies for my stallions, all are shown, and my show bonus is between 500k to 1mil. So papering and PT are not the highest priority on my things to do in the game.
  • I am really just starting to get into my gen 2 and 3 homebred girls hitting breeding age, so I can't speak from much experience. But, when I did my foundation mare cull this month I looked at every mare 8 years old and up and if her AFPT was below 10, she's gone. Some of the GSH mares I keep in a barn to use as recip mares, so they got a ZZ in front of their names to put them at the top of the recip mare list. I also cull mares with 3 offspring altered by free testing or for papering poorly and I cull homebreds if they don't paper where I want them to (but if a mare has extant foals from other people's stallions I give her a reprieve--I don't know if they had the pasture bonus, etc etc!). A mother culled for quality is a strike against her daughters--my method is definitely a variation of aAbbey Road's culling method!
  • I look at them and go "eh, she's pretty, she can stay" or "that one just has a look in her eye, she's outta here!"
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  • Confluence Farms, so do I! I always do the testing - as I have no upgrade, for mares it's MA, SAT and CT - and then I judge them by their colors. Something like "okay, intact but not very interesting, YUM or auction" or "well, this one got spayed, but she's very pretty, she can stay here" etc.
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  • Lol that's how I do mine. :-) I am an appy and paint crazy lady. Lol but now I have alot of white coming out bc of all the white I have.
  • Appy and paints are nice, but I enjoy breeding different Rank Special or other rare DHH horses together, just for the patterns. I breed for uncommon colors, as I can't paper horses or test their PT score.
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