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Culling
  • How does everyone cull down on their stock. I was keeping strickly off of pt in my show prospects. But I am over run and out of space. I already have alot of stalls so buying new barns is alot and not always possible. I havr been selling off alot of altered 2ng gen before I even test just so I can raise money for another barn.
    My studs I am fairly strict on. Mares not as bad but I plan to cut back
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  • I cull established broodmares on AFPT (Average Foal Performance Test). They must have a minimum of 3 pasture foals for me and I have a minimum cut off per generation. I’m starting to raise my cut off in my established foundation pastures to account for the high proportion of Exceptional mares in my herd. I suspect they will also rise in my lined pastures as well as I establish my lines, but I’m not there yet.

    I cull foals by:

    SBA first
    Then paper
    Then inconsistent fillies get culled
    Then I cull on color if I still have excess fillies.

    Colts that paper where I want them to get comparison tested. If I get multiples who pass that, I’m picking my favorite genes and/or who ever needs the least GMTs to be a keeper. I always have excess colts that pass(usually 2 colts per pasture per season), so I will usually offer them for sale, or if they have really high PTs I will snip and throw them in the show herd. If I have special colts who pass but I don’t have a place for, they will often get a sex change. All my Breeders have to be consistent because I cull based on AFPT and inconsistency lowers the PT of foals.
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  • I'm on the opposite end of the scale from Cheers. :D

    I keep most of my horses and only send inconsistent horses with PT scores below 9.0 to the auction. I snip 2nd gen colts from non-exceptional parents that don't paper B and fillies that don't paper Red. From exceptional foundation parents (B and Red papers) I generally snip all colts that don't paper A and the A papered ones that comparison test worse than their brothers. I will keep Red papered 2nd gen mares from exceptional lines until I get enough blue papered 2nd gens to make a reasonable breeding pool.

    Most of my breeding tends to be foundations and 2nd gens, and I have a lot of them. If I have a Red papered mare that gives me a lot of C papered colts and yellow papered fillies, she will get snipped. I confess that I have a lot of elderly intact horses that have never been bred. They support the stable by showing and gathering points for me. Breeding is a sideline in my stable. :D
    De gustibus non disputandum. "There's no arguing about tastes."

    SandyCreek Farm: ID# 441
    also playing H&J1 as SandyCreek Acres: ID# 137592
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  • I've been wanting to ask this same thing for a while now! I love hearing how other people do it. Right now I'm in the same predicament.. no barn space!
    Right now I am culling anything below 9.5 PT, unless they're too cute to handle for me.. lol a mere few of them..ha, or anything under 9. I can't handle inconsistent.. I know it doesn't always matter, but I think I'm gonna start getting rid of anything 10PT and under and inconsistent.
    I have so many colts.. I know I should use some for showing, but until they've proven themselves I can't decide if I wanna snip or not..
    I need a better daily bonus, i need more horses with actual points, but I am so set on less horses, but more quality to care too much about keeping any at the moment. :)
    I can't afford to spend any more money! No more Kami! No more! =))
  • I am strict with my horses...
    *They all have to pass SBA.
    *Colts have to be superior to sires and then I comparison test them against each other.
    *Inconsistent foals get snipped.
    *If they are from C/Yellow parents (Foundation) then I only keep the B/Red babies
    If they are from Red/B parents (Foundation) then I only keep A/Blue babies.

    It doesn't make for a lot of babies this way but I am hoping that I am producing quality over quantity.
    Since I have basically started from scratch, I have also adopted Cheers idea of keeping tabs of what AFPT my mares are producing (It is a painstaking process to write all the babies info on each mares page lol ).
    I will also be giving my pasture mares 3-4 chances to produce intact foals (I noticed a lot of my previous mares never actually gave me a foal that was up to standard).
    ♡ ID #23495 ♡
    ~Specialising in Quality Snowflake, Watercolour & Mushroom Drafts~
    Thanked by 1KAMRanch
  • SBA is good for culling, as they are then at least as good as their better parent. As I try and use the best stallion I can find for that generation it keeps my mares improving. So if I use say an A papered gen2 stallion, it doesn't matter if I use him on red mares as only the blue foals stay intact anyway.
    Older mares with points under 100 I will cull if I need to. It's usually because they have been in the pasture most of their life and if no longer breeding, no longer worth keeping. Altered gen2's under 9.5PT I'd cull if needed space, plus foundations if I no longer had a use for them (and didn't have many points).

    Usually though I have enough space for everything so just keep everything LOL
    Thanked by 1KAMRanch
  • Embrace the fact that you have no hope and keep breeding until you have no choice but to buy barns and pastures with real money. :D

    <:-P 8-} =)) @-) b-( >-)
    Thanked by 2KAMRanch Goobanni
  • I only keep 2nd gen A colts and the best after comparison testing.. every generation colt gets comp tested and onky the best stay unless they have good genes.

    2nd gen fillies im happy to keep reds but everything has to pass sba. By 3rd gens fillies have to paper blue.

    I also dont breed with inconsistent horses.

    Ill only keep show horses with a pt over 10.5 unless they are super pretty.

    Lately to save money any altered gen 2 go straight to auction and i only pt test the higger generations.

    Any girls that pass sba but doesnt paper where i want, is inconsistent or doesnt get any special genes that i want go into a public brood barn and they become show horses and also get put up for public breeding every season for extra money or used as et mares.
    Breeding liver chestnut drafts that carry snowflake and kp.
    Also breeder of mushroom, watercolour, chinchilla, splash m, wrong warp and thunderstruck.

    Horses generally always available.
    PM me for any enquiries.
  • Thanks guys. I don't have many pastures-would love more but I just can't afford to spend real money on them. So I know that hurts me. As far as AFPT I know you have to click on each mare for that to show in your barn page. Do you have to click them all for it to update? Because there is no way I have time for that. :-(
  • I do pretty much the same as Cheers.. My cull order is:

    1. Cull all who do not pass SBA
    2. Cull those who do not paper equally to generation
    3. I cull or geld any colts that do not test superior to sire
    - those that test superior, are then tested against each other and I only keep the best foal from that sire, of that crop..)
    4. Then, If Im pressed for space and forced to cull.. I will look at culling by colour or size ( in my case mainly anything below 15.2 hands)
    Champion Appaloosas
  • I spay/geld anything that isn’t consistent or grullo and run sba on everyone. Each generation has a prefix and their own barn and occasionally I will run down the barn list and geld/spay the lower paper lever per generation.

    All my colts are tested superior to their sire and then tested against their brothers to be at least AGA any colt gets gelded as soon as he has a superior brother. If more than 3 aga brothers I geld the excess colts by PT keeping the highest intact.

    But I keep everything. Every single foal and only sell or auction foundations. Because of this my show herd is quite a bit larger than my breeding herd and pays for everything. I buy 1000stall show barns and by the time I fill up one with show horses they have earned enough to buy another 1000 stall barn.

    When I was a smaller barn and did have to cull I only culled the oldest horses that were leveled off. These are the horses that won’t be making you many more points so if they don’t have any they are taking up space from a younger horse with more points.

    I would open the search and put in my ID and sort by all time points and uncheck mares and stallions. starting with the oldest age horse I would cull the bottom few (After a while I started to notice that each age bracket would have a small gap between the bottom 1/3 and the top 2/3 (roughly) so I would just cull until the bottom 1/3). I would work my way down each age until I reached ages that some of the horses PT scores were higher than their age and I would only cull the ones that their page said leveled off. I stopped when I reached age 9 or 10. Next time I culled is start from the top again and work my way down.
  • I have a somewhat similar culling program as the others:

    1) Put foals through BA (I don't have SBA or I'd use it!)
    2) Cull inconsistent breeding stock (I do PT test first because it's cheaper than papering!)
    3) Cull breeding stock that doesn't paper appropriately (I'll keep 3G reds since I just don't get enough Blues to only keep them)
    4) Colts go through comparison testing to make sure they're superior to sire
    5) Some colts that are from specific lines and breeding programs will be culled if they missed essential genes (Lp for my appy line, etc.)

    Show horses are kept if they have PTs of 10 or higher, but I don't generally PT test my stock, so I generally only keep a handful that got PT tested as breeding stock that were then culled out of the breeding program. This is mainly due to space constraints - I'd like to eventually be able to keep all of my foals to further increase my show stock.

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