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KP isn't showing..
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Am I missing something? I think she should show both her KP and GP but it doesn't look like it is showing. -
Both parents seem to only be Het for both. So she has either missed both copies or just one of each. You can get them on her for 1 gmt each :)●▬▬▬▬▬▬๑۩۩๑▬▬▬▬▬▬▬●
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See if she registers in the breeders clubs for them, though as far as I remember GP doesn't show up on foals (I don't breed for it so I could be wrong), if she can be registered in the KP breeders club then reroll her until she shows, if she can't she either missed the gene completely or just has one copy, either way if you like her enough you can GMT it onto her.21170 ~ Breeder of quality Liver Chestnut and Chocolate Palomino riding horses and ponies with unique twists. Specializing in Kit Promoter with fancy white patterns.
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She can't be in KP but should of been able to. She carries both kit genes. So not sure what happens now?
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@Paradise she has 2 kit genes so it should show.
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What makes you think she is hom KP at all? If she can't go in the club she almost certainly is not KP.
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Because both parents are het. She has 2 kit genes so I thought it would show on her.
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Both her parents are heterozygous KP thanks to their sires, so at best with them being heterozygous and her not being able to enter the club she’s only hetero herself. At worst, she got the 25% chance to not have picked up the gene at all.
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Just because she has two kit genes does not make her automatically KP. Just like being an Appaloosa doesn’t automatically make you a snowflake. It’s a totally separate and un-gene-testable (so not a real word, but it works for me) hidden gene that’s only expressed when homozygous.
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True. I guess I will keep trying.
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Breed her back to a Hom KP stud a couple times, only way to tell if she’s a carrier
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KP is a tricky one to breed for as the foal has to inherit 2 kit genes as well as 2 KP genes, which is why I only got 1 KP foal even though I have 21 mares that are definitely either het or hom kp and 9 others I'm not sure about yet, they were bred to a mixture of het and hom stallions.21170 ~ Breeder of quality Liver Chestnut and Chocolate Palomino riding horses and ponies with unique twists. Specializing in Kit Promoter with fancy white patterns.
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I know my mares are carriers through their sire. He was homo for it. I guess I don't understand because I am linebreeding his line to get mostly KPGP foals.
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I am breeding brother to sister.
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KP and GP are both recessive so the only way to guarantee foal with the genes is to breed 2 homozygous horses together, otherwise you have a 25% chance of them being homozgyous KP (the only genetype that shows it, and only if they have 2 kit genes), 50% of heterozygous KP and 25% change of no KP, the same goes for GP.
Once you add it the chances of the foal inheriting the 2 kit genes you need for the KP to show, or the extension gene and the agouti gene you need for GP to show the odds are vastly smaller.21170 ~ Breeder of quality Liver Chestnut and Chocolate Palomino riding horses and ponies with unique twists. Specializing in Kit Promoter with fancy white patterns.
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KP need to be bred back to other KP to get the best chance at offspring with KP. Don’t worry about inbreeding, you can breed daughter right back to dad with no problems as long as the genes aren’t lethal. Your best bet would have been to breed this fillies mom right back to her dad for a 50/50 shot at hom KP. I can’t tell you anything about GP, I’ve never bred for it or researched it much.
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Would you like straws from either of these 2 to increase your chances of KP? Though neither has GP.
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May I get a few from The Mad Witch. 14374 is my id.
I have 2 foals with GP and I bred to an outside stud and got a homo KP foal but he got gelded. I definitely like these 2 genes kust have to figure out how to get homo. Foals -
That's some straws sent your way.
It's just going to take a while and a lot of luck to build a breeding group to give you the genes you want, I think you've picked 2 of the hardest genes to breed for which is why they are so rare in the game. I do want to eventually breed KP SF horses, but atm I'm focusing of KP, though I do have a couple of het KP and get SF youngster coming up for breeding age in the next couple of seasons.21170 ~ Breeder of quality Liver Chestnut and Chocolate Palomino riding horses and ponies with unique twists. Specializing in Kit Promoter with fancy white patterns.
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They are hard but oh so worth it when the foal gets it.
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Definitely, I got this stunner today, she is homozygous for everything I am breeding for atm.
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She is gorgeous.