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- Bandit1119 March 2018
- CrewCut March 2018
- Dinascar March 2018
- Haltanny March 2018
- kintara March 2018
- ObsidianKitsune March 2018
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- RipshinCreekFarm March 2018
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How do you do it?!
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I was wondering how everyone chooses which horse to breed to which each month! I know a lot probably has to do with certain goals and projects, but I'm still curious. I have such a hard time sorting and organizing each month, but then again I don't really have a certain goal, I just kind of try to breed pretty horses and try a different combination each time!
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Basically, I have lines.
I've got my splash/frame line, which all horses have to have splash (preferred hom) and the mares are encouraged to have frame, whereas the stallions are culled for it (to stop lethal crosses). The base tends to be bay, but I throw anything with splash in.
I've got my liver/dp line, which has livers, chocolate palominos, and chocolate palomino pearls. Also got a bit of dun in it as well, and the very very rare bay.
And basically my other lines follow those rules. The horses in it HAVE to have that gene, and are bred to others with that gene. It makes culling easier, as well as sorting. Sometimes I do get horses who could go into either line, and I alternate who they breed to.
So a TL;DR would be that I have specific colours/patterns that I want, and I breed my horses to maximize those patterns in my herd.Producer of Volcanic Glass Drafts. Lapisobsidianus.
Prices are almost always negotiable.Thanked by 1KAMRanch -
I have some color goals, and aim for a balance of breeding the best quality within those goals. I take a different approach from @ObsidianKitsune - I actually seek out horses that can do double duty and be bred for more than one line, since there is some crossover.
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I don't have specific lines, exactly. I do have certain colors that I breed for, and every horse I have can produce at least one of those colors. I decide who is bred to who based on which partner gives the best chance at giving a color I want. For example, if I want to breed for sooty brown splash and I have a mare that is chestnut but carries AtAt, I would be better off breeding her to a black stallion with two 'E' alleles rather than a chestnut or a bay. I of course match quality, except in bootstrapping.#28036Thanked by 1KAMRanch
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I put all my horses through strict breeding advice then I cull all of the inconsistants. After that I breed every mare I have time for that month starting with the highest AFPTs to the stallions with the highest AFPTs for their gen and paper level. I try a different stallion each time unless there's a stallion that I feel makes particularly nice babies with that particular mare.
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I use prefixes to separate and sort everyone by gender, generation and special patterns first then names after. My mares all start with JL and my studs JS. Generations are sorted by an alphabet letter. Then special patterns NX - nexus and IC - ice (to stay intact descendants must inherit NX or ice)
Each generation also has their own barn so when culling I also go to each barn and do a quick paper check and any higher paper that is starting to be a majority within the barn gets the lower paper level snipped. All studs are compared superior to sire and AGA all brothers and I cull down to 3 sons per sire.
When breeding I usually use the pastures and go through one generation at a time normally starting with any special genes. I’m not overly fussed about inbreeding so I normally fill up the pastures and add up to 3 studs and let them cover whoever.
I breed Grullos. I use bulk testing so I am not swayed by a pretty picture and cull by SBA, inconsistency and any non Grullos get a snip.
It usually only takes me a few hours to breed, test, sort and add prefixes. My breeding herd isn’t huge but I’m working on increasing my foundation herd since it had gotten quite diminished after years of letting horses just age out without replacing and they’ve recently busted the seams of their 210 stall barn and are floating between the rest of my barns while I save up for a second one lol
I love my show horses. They provide for my breedings so I cheer every time there’s a snip.Thanked by 1KAMRanch -
I wish I had more of a plan. It helps to breed for specific colors. I use sba to help me weed out some of my horses but I have so many every season. I am trying to make my herds better quality than the last season's but other than that I play around a lot still - so much to learn. :)
I have a bootstrap line, a satin line I am trying to start at 2nd/3rd gen - which is really hard and a black/dark brown line with white markings which is just starting. But I have loads of creams and champagnes from previous lines which get slotted in to someone. Oh, it's a mess! =))
My other account ChilliFireFarm does much better as she just breeds chestnut. Even then it is is tricky but because she does have a plan she is breeding better quality horses than I am from scratch. Only ever taking the odd stallion from someone else to put a gene in she wants. Trying to keep even breeding. She does not have sba - so looks at papering and PT (to some extent) and comparison testing to ensure things get better - she is stricter with quality than me and always tries to breed like-to-like. She has a weak spot for livers though and lets the odd 3rd gen red mare go through if they are liver :D
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Bandit, I was wondering about naming conventions. Thanks! I'm about to go peek into your barns and investigate your setup, maybe it'll give me some help. Right now I have few enough horses to name them all after stars, but I'm reading that some stables top out over 3000 horses! I'm going to run out of star names if I get that involved!
Decision making is not my strong point.
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Also, what is AGA? I've seen reference to it a couple of times now.
Decision making is not my strong point.
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@towdolly, AGA is the shorthand for 'As Good As', a designation given when you run comparison testing on two horses. One horse might be superior to the other, as good as, or not as good as.More power!
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I use just the JL & JS for foundations and then start with a for 2nd Gen, b for 3rd gen, c for 4th etc.
My barns are mostly sorted at the moment but I have overflowed my foundation barn so they are sort of stuffed in a few barns. -
For me it's fairly easy, I breed even generation and usually the same era as well. All stallions are named that way and although I have lots the names clue me in on who was their sire to keep my breedings a bit diversified, on the whole other than generation and era anything goes! This with 1000's of horses too, I don't have specific colour lines, just all the pretty things, but by breeding even generations it's gives me a goal to at least be superior to sire each generation etc
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I have 6 different lines, each focused on a pattern. I don't really pay that much attention to base color, but I am picky on breeding ability/quality. I have a naming system so it makes it easier (to me) to pick out breedings from the drop down list when I hand/lab breed or place mares. For example ( 3 Ipanema ALNNS b ) the 3 is 3rd generation, her name staring with I is my warmblood snowflake line, the large letters after her name correspond to patterns and the lowercase letter is paper level. It sounds complicated, but it works for me. At a glance I know I know I want a warmblood A stallion, with snowflake, without frame (L=LWO), and easy on the unstable kit/wf (S=sabino) for her.