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What stallion are you talking about and are you breeding him evenly? If the mare is not close in quality then the foal has that much further to be better in order to stay intact.

Even quality is:
C - yellow
B - red
A - blue
*star - *gold

7 foals isn’t a big pool to test a stud.

Another thing you may want to watch is how many generations a horse has behind it. A lined B could be much better quality horse than a foundation B even though both horses are papered B.

It is easier to get intact horses pairing horses with similar generations and paper levels

Ugh I'm going to go hide him in a pasture and forget about him for a few months I don't have any horses that are lined to compete this is frustrating lol

If you leave your mares in the pasture for 30 days you may have a better chance at an intact foal or you can always use the search for lined mares up for breeding. you can also sort by price and paper and look for red papered mares with 2 generations showing on their family tab (6 horses showing)

You've been playing this game just over a month, and it is a game where even when you set your own goals, it takes time, patience, and savvy culling to reach them. Please, please, don't get discouraged! There's a lot of variability to every aspect of Hunt and Jump. I generally remark that about the only thing you can predict for sure is that if you breed a plain chestnut stallion to a plain chestnut mare, you will get a plain chestnut foal. Almost nothing else is guaranteed.

You don't stink at the game; you're just beginning to learn it. Keep trying, keep asking questions, keep refining your goals, and DON'T give up. Wait and see where you are next July. I'll bet you'll feel like your doing much better and are getting a secure handle on this amazingly complex game.

Some of the players in HaJ1 have been playing for 10 real-life years! I've been playing HaJ1 since 2011 and Haj2 since 2013, and, every once in a while, I still learn something new about it, and it's not necessarily a new upgrade or feature that Ammit is introducing. :D This is a large part of what keeps me playing.

okay so your horse gets cut if it isnt close to the parents, how close? If shire is a PTG 10 and mother is a 9? is that okay? so if my horses are continuing as show horses and not breeders it could be that one of my parents PTG is too low?

As Bandit said you will have more luck matching him to mares with the same number of generations. I have a favorite B stud that I bred 50 times last month after I bought him and only got a few that passed BA...I was beyond frustrated. This month I looked for high red mares (second gen) and low blue mares (first gen) and that seems to be the sweet spot as I ended up with alot more success. All the mares also had a full 30 days in pasture and that helps immensely!

I love this game. I am at the point now that I am going to have to make decisions on how to combine lines and do do strictly with my boys. If you want you can look at my barns and see kind of what I have done. I am having to sort through again.

I also put my 3 yr olds in pasture so they have a full pasture bonus come the next breeding season. I agree with everything Duelinghawks has said. I still have one of my pastures for sorting because I ran out of room in my 3 gen pasture and have some 3 gens in with my second gens.
I too have bought a lot of the pointed creates people are selling and stock my barns. With 200-300 points on each one your show bonus can come up fairly quick.
But then again everyone has their own way of playing.

Quality is difficult to figure out which is why I always suggest starting breeding with foundations. If you are looking for intact horses it is a whole lot easier to get intacts when breeding a foundation Stud to a foundation mare (pairing C- yellow & B-red). Especially if you use mares and studs all from the same breeding Herd helper (perfect foundation, exceptional producer, etc.) You know that all of your horses are starting at the same quality because those are all created with the same breeding abilities. The colour herd helpers only guarantee colours not breeding abilities.

Once you start getting into lined horses each generation gets harder to produce an intact foal because there is a wide range of quality within each paper level. It’s possible to have 2-3 superior to sire colts within one paper level. Mares often get mare lag because people tend to be less strict when culling the girls because we want more foals but we only need a few boys to cover them so only the best of the best boys stay while any old thing with a pulse and pretty colour may stay in our mare herds.

Now if you look at your foals pedigree you can see that those parents have almost a similar amount of generations behind them (the stud has a full generation and a half generation more than the mare does) but are not likely to be that close in quality.

If you look at the paper levels you’ll see that the stud is 3rd generation A papered along the top side with a bunch of B papers and a few C’s. Whereas the mares line doesn’t have any A papers just B and mostly C’s.

Since the foal and her dam aren’t papered we can’t tell if the foal had a really bad roll of the dice or was just close but not close enough to her sires quality level or if the dam was continuing improving the quality of her line or stagnant or back tracking.

The stud may have better luck being paired with a Blue papered mare. Possibly preferably a blue from a Blue mare.

That being said show horses are the life blood of your barn. You want to aim for a 1:3 ratio between breeding horses and show horses to have a really self sustaining barn. It is difficult starting out when you want all the pretty ponies but once you have a great show band bringing in the money you can afford to breed all the pretty ponies. I bred roughly 450 foals 3 seasons ago. Once all the game testing was completed I went through and snipped more that didn’t fit my goals and was left with about 28 intact horses and quite a number were studs that have been further reduced and for my barn I was happy with those results because now I have another 400 show horses that I am able to let sit in a barn showing and forget about them. They not only pay for all my breedings but also buy themselves new barns by the time they outgrow their current barn.

Thank you for your help, I've taken your information on board

Thank you chilli and no sir you may not have him back he has a forever home.

Touch, just make sure you take those babies out of pasture before July 28 if you want to keep them. Any foals left in the pasture at the end of the month get deleted from the pastures.
I would hate to see you lose some precious babies that you were hoping to keep.

@ATouchOfGeneticsATouchOfGenetics I am sending you some straws form my 2g B papered stud and a couple from my wonderful 3g A papered.

WhooHoo!! Congrats!! :D

I have a couple of 3rd gen ice fillies you can have if you'd like them they are both Red so they should match quite equally with your boy.

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Congrats - they are both beautiful and worth the wait :X