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Classic Tobiano Pattern...
  • I just bred this ht KP mare, and when I colour tested her, she came up with ht Kit To.. Except she doesn't display the trademark tobiano white pattern!
    I think it's pretty cool, just never seen it happen before. Is it common for tobiano's to be solid coloured?

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    II Shaded Spike HtKP
    AztecArabians
    ~ Striving to breed exceptional, affordable Warmbloods ~
    ID 19120
  • I'm not sure how common it is, but I seem to get a lot of minimally marked (or no marks!) tobis. It's a little disappointing because the classic tobi pattern has a special place in my heart.
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  • I've never seen it before! I just assumed a choc pally dun/some sort of cream based dun..was no expected a tobiano!

    This guy is my favourite out of all my tobi babies, the w8 is lovely with it!
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    Walls of Wonder
    AztecArabians
    ~ Striving to breed exceptional, affordable Warmbloods ~
    ID 19120
  • Oh wow, he is lovely :x
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  • My gelding who was my herd sire is homo tobi and he produced a few solid tobis. It is what is known as slipped tobianos. They are tobi without the classic markings. Sky produced 4 out of 17 foals that were solid. It does happen.
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  • In the game, we have something called White Factor in the genetic information. It is not so much a gene as a combination of genetic factors that influences how much white shows up on a horse. It can range from None through Minimal, Light, Medium, and Large to Extensive.

    Your first foal in this post has White Factor None, so he has very little white showing on his body. If you look at his hind leg, you will see a low white sock that has a sort of diagonal top line that slants roughly from the back toward the front. This is a typical game indication of a low White Factor foal that carries Tobiano.

    The second foal (who is really striking) has White Factor Light. He shows some relatively restrained typical Tobiano patterniing, and some light white speckling from his White 8 mutation. If he had a larger White Factor, he would have a lot less color in his coat.

    Here is a link from the Genetics Guide to how Ammit explains White Factor in the game. http://www.huntandjump.com/geneticsguide/?page_id=122 Because this is not something that is completely understood by scientists, she classes White Factor among the Fantasy Genes. This doesn't mean that it's something completely unnatural and made up like Nexus and Axiom, only that there isn't a verified scientific explanation or even a likely theory to explain why it works this way.
    De gustibus non disputandum. "There's no arguing about tastes."

    SandyCreek Farm: ID# 441
    also playing H&J1 as SandyCreek Acres: ID# 137592
  • Here are a few examples of tobianos in my stable that have smaller amounts of white factor. Remember that there is variability in the color and pattern expressions in the game, so not all horses with the same amount of white factor will look this these, but these all show the tell-tale tobiano forward slanting hind sock.

    White Factor: Minimal
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    Speedy Current


    White Factor: Light
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    Hidden Synergy


    White Factor: None
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    Salsa Summit


    By the time we get to Medium White Factor, the horse is likely to have completely white hind legs, and enough tobiano patterning to make it obvious.
    De gustibus non disputandum. "There's no arguing about tastes."

    SandyCreek Farm: ID# 441
    also playing H&J1 as SandyCreek Acres: ID# 137592
  • Thank you so much everyone! I really appreciate it! :D
    AztecArabians
    ~ Striving to breed exceptional, affordable Warmbloods ~
    ID 19120
  • It's called minimal tobiano, slipped tobiano is something different. :)

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