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I have been clicking on all sooty flaxen and dark chesnut hh to get livers lol. I got 3 today. I am trying to build my DP herd up

Haha it's one of those genes you just get hooked on :) I really enjoy breeding for liver

You guys are soo lucky to find livers in regular herd helpers! I am trying to establish a dp line. Currently I am using A Rhythm of Four.

Haha that's how I get mine too but I've limited it to dark chesnut and sooty flaxen Chesnuts. I actually just put a bunch in Auction that passed SBA

Haha I have a HOM DP foundation boy that I GMTd. I am actually selling straws from him now. He's been my benchmark boy for my livers. I have a ton so far. I used to have a liver boy but he was only het.

Sounds good :) I am going to go through my barns this weekend and slim down my horses. I have quite a few I either need to spay/geld or sell. I just don't know what I want to do :)

@DivineDreams, if you breed some hom sooty red based foundation mares (chestnut, palomino, red roan/dun etc.) to a Rank Special Freaky Friday stud, you will be guaranteed to get foals that are het DP hom sooty so they will all be liver or chocolate. Just make sure you choose a Freaky Friday stud that is Liver (or Chocolate palomino if you come across one that had cream GMTd on) because Freaky Fridays can also be black or bay. The Freaky Friday RS gives horses that are hom DP, hom sooty, and hom frame, but they can potentially be EE or Ee, which you want to avoid if you're trying to breed livers. There are usually some liver Freaky Fridays up for public stud for very reasonable prices.

Just remember with Freaky Friday if your Foals get Frame try to avoid breeding to other frame horses so you don't get a lethal white foal :)

What is funny is that I am getting more snipped foas from my Kings Ransom stallion! I got one intact foal from him and he papered C! I have 1 mare that always produces beautiful intact foas to Rhythm of 4, and two others that have each given me intact foals from him.

Really disappointed in my KingsRansom stallion

I have a HOM DP Texas Tea Stallion and I just breed him to yellow papered girls who passed SBA. Before that I had a Liver Stallion that I was breeding to dark chesnuts and sooty flaxen chesnuts.

Haha right I hear you Bluejumpingbean I'm always missing out on them too haha

Top Notch Producers have perfect foundation breeding ability, but unlike perfect foundations, TNPs have a random amount of showing ability. Exceptional producers are the same way, they have the same level of breeding ability as exceptionally perfects but a random level of showing ability.

Perfect Foundation and equivalent Rank Specials
C/Yellow papered
100% breeding ability
100% showing ability
Perfectly consistent
Examples: Perfect Foundations, horses from Foundation Rescue, RS such as Stars and Stripes, Kings Ransom, Texas Tea, etc.

Top Notch Producers
C/Yellow papered
100% breeding ability
Random showing ability
May or may not be consistent
Examples: Top Notch Producers, occasionally TNPs show up in foundation rescue if they also got perfect showing ability

Exceptionally Perfect and equivalent Rank Specials
B/Red papered
105% breeding ability
105% showing ability
Perfectly consistent
Examples: Exceptionally Perfect, RS like Nanotech, Bonefire, Storm Warning, etc.

Exceptional Producer Rank Specials (Rank 5 exceptional producers are NOT in this category)
B/Red papered
105% breeding ability
100% showing ability
Perfectly consistent
Examples: RS like Sparkling Cider, Out with a bang, Yule Log Ashes, etc.

Exceptional Producers (like the rank 5 ones we got for 11th anniversary)
B/Red papered
105% breeding ability
Random showing ability
May or may not be consistent
Examples: Exceptional Producers

Occasionally you will come across older mares who were papered under the original system where a mare's paper level was judged by the quality of her foals and mares could not be papered at birth. Some ordinary foundation mares were able to paper Red under this system however they are not any better than perfect foundations. If it was possible to repaper these mares, they would paper Yellow.